Smoother Damage Progression

Some time ago I explored damage progression, how various things that increase damage might be represented with different roles. Much analysis happens there of various options and what they mean, I won’t repeat it here.

I recently had cause to look at the Pathfinder equivalent of the RSRD progression shown in that post, and it exhibits the same things that bothered me there. The Pathfinder table went a little farther than I initially did, so I decided to extend my table and see if I could make something that suited my taste better.

New Damage Progression

The table below presents a new damage progression that provides a smoother mean increase in damage rolls. Not only do the values always increase, but the amount increased never gets smaller from grade to grade, though it does sometimes remain the same for two or three grades in a row.

The minimum and maximum rolls do not progress as smoothly as the mean. This is mitigated by the number of dice involved: by the time it becomes significant the number of dice is large enough that the rolls will usually be nearer the mean than the extremes.

The number of dice gets pretty silly at the top end, but they are only likely to come up when you’re dealing with a truly big source of damage. I’m pretty sure the spectacle of 19d10 damage (I’m not even sure how you’d get there!) will be memorable.

Pathfinder Damage Progression

This damage progression is taken from the Pathfinder FAQ. The mean values do not increase in as smooth a manner, but unlike the damage progression above neither the minimum nor maximum values ever decrease from one grade to the next. This does have value, but I think less than having the mean — which will come up more often as the number of dice increases — rising smoothly is more important.

The rows in italics are my extension to the published table. The pattern is consistent: at every grade starting with the 12th, the dice rolled are twice as many as four grades earlier.

GradeNew
Roll
New
Mean
New
Delta Mean
New
Min
New
Max
PF
Roll
PF
Mean
PF
Delta Mean
PF
Min
PF
Max
111111111
21d21.50.5121d21.50.512
31d320.5131d320.513
41d42.50.5141d42.50.514
51d63.51161d63.5116
61d84.51181d84.5118
71d105.511101d105.51110
82d671.52122d671.5212
92d8922162d892216
102d101122203d610.51.5318
113d813.52.53243d813.53324
123d1016.533304d6140.5424
133d1219.533364d8184432
145d822.535406d6213636
155d1027.555506d8276648
165d1232.555608d6281848
177d1038.567708d8368864
1810d8456.5108012d64261272
198d1252789612d854121296
2017d659.57.51710216d65621696
2115d867.581512016d8721616128
2217d876.591713624d6841224144
2319d885.591915224d81082424192
249d2094.59918032d6112432192
2519d10104.5101919032d81443232256
2611d20115.5111122048d61682448288
2720d1213014.52024048d82164848384
2814d20147171428064d6224864384
2916d20168211632064d82886464512
3030d12195273036096d63364896576

Comparison

The tables above show the numbers, but I think the charts below make it even more evident how the new progression suits my taste better.

Pathfinder Damage Progression
Pathfinder Damage Progression
New Damage Progression
New Damage Progression

It’s pretty easy to see that the new progression is much smoother in how the mean (blue line) and maximum (yellow line) damage increase. The delta in the mean (orange line) increases more smoothly as well. The minimum (grey) damage is less smooth, but I’m not particularly interested in that.

It is also evident that the new progression is shallower than the Pathfinder progression. I actually like that, and expect it will work better for me when I finally reach into that range.

Closing Comments

Both damage progressions are workable.

The Pathfinder progression is designed so that minimum and maximum values never decrease as the grades increase. It also sticks to more regular dice, using primarily d6 and d8. However, the change in the mean swings back and forth through the grades, so the expected improvement from grade to grade might not be all that much.

The progression I present is designed so the mean values and the delta between them, the expected improvement from grade to grade, never decrease. This requires use of a broader range of dice (d10 and d12 show up almost as often as d6 and d8, and even d20 shows up) and the number of dice will vary from grade to grade. As a result, the minimum value that can be rolled swings back and forth, but while the maximum value that can be rolled always increases, the amount of this increase is not always growing (from grades 15 through 18 the maximum grows by 10, then at grade 19 it increases by 16, then at grade 20 it increases by 6). On the other hand, it swings less than the Pathfinder progression (grade 16 increases by 0, but grade 17 increases by 16… then level 18 increases by 8, and grade 19 by 24).

Another significant difference lies in the values themselves. The Pathfinder progression runs consistently higher in mean, minimum, and maximum values at higher grades. They stay fairly close until grade 20, and then the doubling really starts to have effect and the results diverge. I’ll see if it makes a difference if I’m ever in a position to roll 96d6 damage for something, rather than 30d12.

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